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	<description>scratched tallies on the prison wall</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Indefinite Articles &#187; Google Chart API</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/12/08/negative-numbers-in-the-google-chart-api#comment-122452</link>
		<dc:creator>Indefinite Articles &#187; Google Chart API</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dealing with Negative numbers     &#160;Bookmark on del.icio.us &#160;&#160; Filed under: Groovy, Programming, Technology by &#8212; jb @ 2:45 am [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dealing with Negative numbers     &nbsp;Bookmark on del.icio.us &nbsp;&nbsp; Filed under: Groovy, Programming, Technology by &#8212; jb @ 2:45 am [...]</p>
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		<title>By: OK, I admit I was wrong - charting in Rails Redux &#124; PocketSmith</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/12/08/negative-numbers-in-the-google-chart-api#comment-121771</link>
		<dc:creator>OK, I admit I was wrong - charting in Rails Redux &#124; PocketSmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first of these can be worked around with a hack which can be seen here, however although this works well for relatively stable, administrator created graphs, it gets a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] first of these can be worked around with a hack which can be seen here, however although this works well for relatively stable, administrator created graphs, it gets a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Weekly World Whatever. Served Fresh Daily. &#124; Web developers: 4 chart widgets you can use for free</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/12/08/negative-numbers-in-the-google-chart-api#comment-108875</link>
		<dc:creator>The Weekly World Whatever. Served Fresh Daily. &#124; Web developers: 4 chart widgets you can use for free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Google Chart API is fun, easy, and doesn&#8217;t rely on Flash at all. Which of course means it lacks the interactivity of a Flash-based chart, but it&#8217;s compatible with more platforms and is by far the easiest to implement. One drawback is that (at the time of writing) it does not support negative numbers without cheating. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Google Chart API is fun, easy, and doesn&#8217;t rely on Flash at all. Which of course means it lacks the interactivity of a Flash-based chart, but it&#8217;s compatible with more platforms and is by far the easiest to implement. One drawback is that (at the time of writing) it does not support negative numbers without cheating. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Die Chart-API von Google verstehen und effektiv einsetzen bei im web gefunden</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/12/08/negative-numbers-in-the-google-chart-api#comment-107642</link>
		<dc:creator>Die Chart-API von Google verstehen und effektiv einsetzen bei im web gefunden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] noch eine Idee von Stuart Langridge, der mittels Transparenzen die links stehende Darstellung f&#252;r negative Zahlen benutzt. Das [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] noch eine Idee von Stuart Langridge, der mittels Transparenzen die links stehende Darstellung f&#252;r negative Zahlen benutzt. Das [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/12/08/negative-numbers-in-the-google-chart-api#comment-101271</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I've made a bit of a GUI for the charts API.

Let me know what you think!

&lt;a href="http://www.jonwinstanley.com/charts" rel="nofollow"&gt;Google Charts GUI&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve made a bit of a GUI for the charts API.</p>
<p>Let me know what you think!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jonwinstanley.com/charts" rel="nofollow">Google Charts GUI</a></p>
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		<title>By: AdamD</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/12/08/negative-numbers-in-the-google-chart-api#comment-101134</link>
		<dc:creator>AdamD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the same issues before realizing it was entirely planned that way. If you look at what Google has used this charting for (Trends and Analytics), you can see why they made this decision. They don't want people passing thousands of data-points to a graph that only has, say, 250 pixels.

Still, it makes the API hard to use. There needs to be some intermediary, and I'm sure there will be soon.

I wrote more here:
http://www.adamduvander.com/simple/infovis-and-calculators-for-the-masses</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same issues before realizing it was entirely planned that way. If you look at what Google has used this charting for (Trends and Analytics), you can see why they made this decision. They don&#8217;t want people passing thousands of data-points to a graph that only has, say, 250 pixels.</p>
<p>Still, it makes the API hard to use. There needs to be some intermediary, and I&#8217;m sure there will be soon.</p>
<p>I wrote more here:<br />
<a href="http://www.adamduvander.com/simple/infovis-and-calculators-for-the-masses" rel="nofollow">http://www.adamduvander.com/simple/infovis-and-calculators-for-the-masses</a></p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-12-09 &#171; Breyten&#8217;s Dev Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/12/08/negative-numbers-in-the-google-chart-api#comment-100966</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-12-09 &#171; Breyten&#8217;s Dev Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Negative numbers in the Google Chart API (tags: howtos web) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: sil</title>
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		<dc:creator>sil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 16:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fragglet: agreed, but installing a tool on my own server means I eat the bandwidth and CPU time for it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fragglet: agreed, but installing a tool on my own server means I eat the bandwidth and CPU time for it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: http://fragglet.livejournal.com/</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/12/08/negative-numbers-in-the-google-chart-api#comment-100881</link>
		<dc:creator>http://fragglet.livejournal.com/</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 15:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you have to do the kind of ridiculous tricks that you're describing, it's best to just use a different tool.  Doesn't Swivel do the same thing that the Charts API does?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you have to do the kind of ridiculous tricks that you&#8217;re describing, it&#8217;s best to just use a different tool.  Doesn&#8217;t Swivel do the same thing that the Charts API does?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/12/08/negative-numbers-in-the-google-chart-api#comment-100806</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 11:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn't this just what you have to do if you have any kind of value range that doesn't exactly match their [0, 100], [0, 63] or [0, 4095] ranges -- scale and offset?

It's pretty kludgy, I agree, though.  It'd be nice if Google didn't require this scaling and offsetting.

I've been investigating using the Charts API in the SpamAssassin rule-QA backend web app, and it's not great... we'd write nearly as much code to use our existing gnuplot-based charting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this just what you have to do if you have any kind of value range that doesn&#8217;t exactly match their [0, 100], [0, 63] or [0, 4095] ranges &#8212; scale and offset?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty kludgy, I agree, though.  It&#8217;d be nice if Google didn&#8217;t require this scaling and offsetting.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been investigating using the Charts API in the SpamAssassin rule-QA backend web app, and it&#8217;s not great&#8230; we&#8217;d write nearly as much code to use our existing gnuplot-based charting!</p>
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