Comments on: The respect re-build http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build scratched tallies on the prison wall Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:34:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: as days pass by » Blog Archive » A few recent things http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99496 as days pass by » Blog Archive » A few recent things Mon, 20 Aug 2007 00:13:25 +0000 http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99496 [...] Luis Villa gives me a beating about regaining my respect for Mark Shuttleworth’s commitment to free software. I, personally, think that Gobuntu is not a stooge distro, but it remains to be seen whether it’s actually pushed as an important thing when gutsy is released or whether it’s buried in some back alley bit of the website. I agree totally about there being no Launchpad source, indeed. As to why Shuttleworth isn’t investing in OLPC, well…you can only do so much at once. OLPC are indeed building a free software laptop. On the other hand, it’s not a free software laptop that I, Stuart, will be able to buy; someone ought to be trying to persuade people to make existing Western laptops run only free software as well. OLPC is a valuable project, indeed, but it’s not the be-all and end-all. Whether the Ubuntu/Dell deal, etc, counts as doing this depends on your point of view. [...] [...] Luis Villa gives me a beating about regaining my respect for Mark Shuttleworth’s commitment to free software. I, personally, think that Gobuntu is not a stooge distro, but it remains to be seen whether it’s actually pushed as an important thing when gutsy is released or whether it’s buried in some back alley bit of the website. I agree totally about there being no Launchpad source, indeed. As to why Shuttleworth isn’t investing in OLPC, well…you can only do so much at once. OLPC are indeed building a free software laptop. On the other hand, it’s not a free software laptop that I, Stuart, will be able to buy; someone ought to be trying to persuade people to make existing Western laptops run only free software as well. OLPC is a valuable project, indeed, but it’s not the be-all and end-all. Whether the Ubuntu/Dell deal, etc, counts as doing this depends on your point of view. [...]

]]> By: Luis Villa’s Blog / random bloggy bits http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99472 Luis Villa’s Blog / random bloggy bits Tue, 31 Jul 2007 03:10:44 +0000 http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99472 [...] Stuart, you come cheap. :) Remember, any time you hear ‘gobuntu’, think ‘stooge distro‘. And any time you hear ‘database layer’, ask ‘where’s the beef?‘ Next time you hear ‘free laptop’, ask ‘why aren’t you investing in the project that is already building one?’ [...] [...] Stuart, you come cheap. :) Remember, any time you hear ‘gobuntu’, think ‘stooge distro‘. And any time you hear ‘database layer’, ask ‘where’s the beef?‘ Next time you hear ‘free laptop’, ask ‘why aren’t you investing in the project that is already building one?’ [...]

]]> By: David http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99454 David Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:52:53 +0000 http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99454 I hear that Linux Emporium in Birmingham sells laptops from Lenovo with Linux pre-installed. If you buy one of those you shouldn't have to worry about drivers. http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/laptops/ I hear that Linux Emporium in Birmingham sells laptops from Lenovo with Linux pre-installed. If you buy one of those you shouldn’t have to worry about drivers.

http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/laptops/

]]> By: sil http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99453 sil Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:21:20 +0000 http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99453 bruce: I shall be around all next week - family on holiday - so instant messaging or a phone call might be a good idea. bruce: I shall be around all next week - family on holiday - so instant messaging or a phone call might be a good idea.

]]> By: bruce http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99452 bruce Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:55:22 +0000 http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99452 Right. The wife and kids are away next week so I'm going to install Linux. You owe me a pint for every device that won't work, every late night forum post I make and every time i weep in frustration, Mr Linux evangelist ... Right. The wife and kids are away next week so I’m going to install Linux.

You owe me a pint for every device that won’t work, every late night forum post I make and every time i weep in frustration, Mr Linux evangelist …

]]> By: sil http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99449 sil Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:49:17 +0000 http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99449 bruce: you can test out Linux by running it from a CD without any installation at all. If you do install it, then you get asked a few questions, but it handles all the "partitioning" and stuff like that for you. bruce: you can test out Linux by running it from a CD without any installation at all. If you do install it, then you get asked a few questions, but it handles all the “partitioning” and stuff like that for you.

]]> By: http://huw-l.myopenid.com/ http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99448 http://huw-l.myopenid.com/ Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:41:16 +0000 http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99448 http://www.xephi.co.uk came up in a discussion recently. They sell laptops and desktops pre-installed with ubuntu. The laptops are all intel components so the drivers are free (or at least mostly free). http://www.xephi.co.uk
came up in a discussion recently. They sell laptops and desktops pre-installed with ubuntu. The laptops are all intel components so the drivers are free (or at least mostly free).

]]> By: Aquarion http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99447 Aquarion Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:45:17 +0000 http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99447 Bruce: Yeah, sorry about that. (I run the subscribeme service Aq uses) My sysadmin decided to fuck with apache without telling me he was going to, and took down most of my sites for a large part of today. Bruce: Yeah, sorry about that. (I run the subscribeme service Aq uses) My sysadmin decided to fuck with apache without telling me he was going to, and took down most of my sites for a large part of today.

]]> By: bruce http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99445 bruce Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:52:38 +0000 http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99445 .. but if I run Ubuntu on my XP box, don't I have to partition stuff and install operating systems and all the dull stuff that stops people from using non-Windows stuff? .. but if I run Ubuntu on my XP box, don’t I have to partition stuff and install operating systems and all the dull stuff that stops people from using non-Windows stuff?

]]> By: http://cjwatson.livejournal.com/ http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99444 http://cjwatson.livejournal.com/ Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:22:54 +0000 http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2007/07/14/the-respect-re-build#comment-99444 Bug reports go on the relevant package in the Ubuntu distro in Launchpad, the same way as they do for Kubuntu etc. Gobuntu is a flavour (jargon: built from the exact same archive, but with different default packages, different installer preseeding, etc.) rather than a full derivative that would need separate bug reporting too. tasksel should be fixed now; it was an unholy combination of a non-Gobuntu-specific bug in the CD build system that generated tasks with the wrong names, a Gobuntu-specific bug where I'd apparently fat-fingered the preseeding, and a bug in apt that meant we didn't notice the first bug until the apt bug metamorphosed into a slightly different bug that broke the entire world. Anyway, we banged on it at the distro sprint in London this week and it should be working better now. Bug reports go on the relevant package in the Ubuntu distro in Launchpad, the same way as they do for Kubuntu etc. Gobuntu is a flavour (jargon: built from the exact same archive, but with different default packages, different installer preseeding, etc.) rather than a full derivative that would need separate bug reporting too.

tasksel should be fixed now; it was an unholy combination of a non-Gobuntu-specific bug in the CD build system that generated tasks with the wrong names, a Gobuntu-specific bug where I’d apparently fat-fingered the preseeding, and a bug in apt that meant we didn’t notice the first bug until the apt bug metamorphosed into a slightly different bug that broke the entire world. Anyway, we banged on it at the distro sprint in London this week and it should be working better now.

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