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	<description>scratched tallies on the prison wall</description>
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		<title>By: * 1 star</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2006/04/27/redaction-of-comments/comment-page-1#comment-20112</link>
		<dc:creator>* 1 star</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 11:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REALLY DONT BUY A PHONE FROM THEM.  I BROUGHT A SAMUNG E370 THE WORST PHONE EVER AND IT DIDNT EVEN LAST 2WEEKS ! AND THEY HAVE THE CHEEK TO TELL ME THAT I HAD DAMAGED IT !  WEAK PIECE OF CRAP.  CONSUMER DIRECT TOLD ME TO WRITE A LETTER AND SEND THE HEEP OF JUNK BACK TO THERE HEAD OFFICE ! THAT WAS OVER A WEEK AGO. GUESS WHAT !!!! NO REPLY!!!!! AND WHERES THE HEEP OF JUNK ?? WELL WHO KNOWS.  IF I EVEN GET THE PHONE REPLACED IT BE A 
MIRACLE !!!!!!  LEARN OFF MY MISTAKE  ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REALLY DONT BUY A PHONE FROM THEM.  I BROUGHT A SAMUNG E370 THE WORST PHONE EVER AND IT DIDNT EVEN LAST 2WEEKS ! AND THEY HAVE THE CHEEK TO TELL ME THAT I HAD DAMAGED IT !  WEAK PIECE OF CRAP.  CONSUMER DIRECT TOLD ME TO WRITE A LETTER AND SEND THE HEEP OF JUNK BACK TO THERE HEAD OFFICE ! THAT WAS OVER A WEEK AGO. GUESS WHAT !!!! NO REPLY!!!!! AND WHERES THE HEEP OF JUNK ?? WELL WHO KNOWS.  IF I EVEN GET THE PHONE REPLACED IT BE A<br />
MIRACLE !!!!!!  LEARN OFF MY MISTAKE  ..</p>
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		<title>By: * 1 star</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2006/04/27/redaction-of-comments/comment-page-1#comment-20111</link>
		<dc:creator>* 1 star</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 11:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The carphone warehouse !  What can I say !!! ******@@%$££$£ idiots.  Never buy a phone from them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The carphone warehouse !  What can I say !!! ******@@%$££$£ idiots.  Never buy a phone from them</p>
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		<title>By: Truepic</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2006/04/27/redaction-of-comments/comment-page-1#comment-19740</link>
		<dc:creator>Truepic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would award CARPHONE WAREHOUSE as worst customer service award.. instead they dont do a customer service.... Horrible .. all the mins u get from them u end up calling them back for help.. 


Once u buy a phone, u r stuck with it for life.. so never buy from carphone warehouse.. there are shit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would award CARPHONE WAREHOUSE as worst customer service award.. instead they dont do a customer service&#8230;. Horrible .. all the mins u get from them u end up calling them back for help.. </p>
<p>Once u buy a phone, u r stuck with it for life.. so never buy from carphone warehouse.. there are shit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: missy</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2006/04/27/redaction-of-comments/comment-page-1#comment-14967</link>
		<dc:creator>missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 22:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My cay died in my arms yesterday on augst 24 and the last wourds i sied to hem was i love hem and i will never forget you and that the only place hes not gone from is my hart and he wong never leave no matter what happends!i will always love hem!}= i miss hem all ready ps i will never b happy again and ill never get another cat to replace hem bye sapphire ill never forget you!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My cay died in my arms yesterday on augst 24 and the last wourds i sied to hem was i love hem and i will never forget you and that the only place hes not gone from is my hart and he wong never leave no matter what happends!i will always love hem!}= i miss hem all ready ps i will never b happy again and ill never get another cat to replace hem bye sapphire ill never forget you!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: TakeTake</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2006/04/27/redaction-of-comments/comment-page-1#comment-10288</link>
		<dc:creator>TakeTake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 19:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AN OPEN LETTER TO CHARLES DUNSTONE

Dear Charlie,

We get told during induction training how great this company is and how employees are treated well. We’ve heard from our 'board' many times, of how awful Phones4U are, how they treat their employees terribly, how they demand so much and how they treat their customers with such contempt.  Just look around Mr Dunstone because it’s all happening here!

A number of employees have now contacted a union and are now urging our colleagues to join.  The Communication Workers Union (CWU) is a highly effective union and focuses on the communications industry of which Carphone Warehouse is a part.  Colleagues should join forces under the union and let CWU officially represent the workforce in dealing with management.  We can only benefit from getting better fairer working conditions, fairer realistic targets, fairer bonus schemes, better health and safety practice, and in some cases coming in line with regulations that are not even bothered with!

Getting busy due to launching Free Broadband deals should not be an excuse for management to become unreasonable and over demanding.  It’s okay admitting there is a need for upping staff and that this is ‘ongoing’, but knowing this to be the issue and then turn around and increase workload for existing staff – being stricter on targets and threatening disciplinaries is ridiculous!

Instore Staff had mobiles as their area of expertise and now deal with TalkTalk Landline and Broadband.  Contact Centre Staff have silly call targets, how can they adhere to a scheduled break and lunch times when it’s unrealistic to control how long a customer is going to spend wanting help or fixing a problem… for the same reason how is it realistic to expect 3-6 minute calls and getting at least 10 calls an hour considering the nature of customers and the amount of problems this company creates of its own back!  Besides what would a customer with his 20 questions think, if we told him “manager says we’ve only got 5 minutes!” – not much ‘First Contact Delight’ is there Charles?  (Sorry, did we just here you scratching off those Five Fundamentals with your finger nails?)

Is it fair to lose out on bonus payments because they spent a little more time with our customers or did not take a ‘scheduled’ break on time because they were talking to a customer who had a problem created by the company!

Back to those scheduled breaks, why can’t Contact Centre Staff have more say over when we take them as recommended for Display Screen users or to take 5 mins every hour or 15 mins every two hours… since it can go up to 3 hours or more without a break according to the BP ‘schedule’.  In fact why is there no consultation arrangement with staff on any health and safety issue (since it’s the law)? 

It’s not surprising after all this (which is just the tip of the iceberg mind) that the HR Director in Warrington is avoiding talks with the Communication Workers Union.

Our glossy Staff Handbooks says the Five Fundamentals apply when we deal with each other too.  So just to make it clear Charles this is not the way we would like to be treated.  When it was boasted about how great this company is and the way it treats employees it was actually an over promise and under deliver.  It’s looking more and more like you’re losing the argument, because if you’re not looking after us the Communication Workers Union will.

“CCCRRAASHH!!!”  (That was just Charles taking a sledge hammer to the 5 Fundamentals…)

TakeTake Website http://TakeTake.5u.com
Complete With A New Forum Set Up For Staff!!!

For Communications &#38; Coordination Of Our Efforts Send An E-Mail To:

cwu.list@googlemail.com
Use your own (not works) E-mail address.


Hopefully we will get some Give’n’Take from Charlie and his Mobile Factory</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AN OPEN LETTER TO CHARLES DUNSTONE</p>
<p>Dear Charlie,</p>
<p>We get told during induction training how great this company is and how employees are treated well. We’ve heard from our &#8216;board&#8217; many times, of how awful Phones4U are, how they treat their employees terribly, how they demand so much and how they treat their customers with such contempt.  Just look around Mr Dunstone because it’s all happening here!</p>
<p>A number of employees have now contacted a union and are now urging our colleagues to join.  The Communication Workers Union (CWU) is a highly effective union and focuses on the communications industry of which Carphone Warehouse is a part.  Colleagues should join forces under the union and let CWU officially represent the workforce in dealing with management.  We can only benefit from getting better fairer working conditions, fairer realistic targets, fairer bonus schemes, better health and safety practice, and in some cases coming in line with regulations that are not even bothered with!</p>
<p>Getting busy due to launching Free Broadband deals should not be an excuse for management to become unreasonable and over demanding.  It’s okay admitting there is a need for upping staff and that this is ‘ongoing’, but knowing this to be the issue and then turn around and increase workload for existing staff – being stricter on targets and threatening disciplinaries is ridiculous!</p>
<p>Instore Staff had mobiles as their area of expertise and now deal with TalkTalk Landline and Broadband.  Contact Centre Staff have silly call targets, how can they adhere to a scheduled break and lunch times when it’s unrealistic to control how long a customer is going to spend wanting help or fixing a problem… for the same reason how is it realistic to expect 3-6 minute calls and getting at least 10 calls an hour considering the nature of customers and the amount of problems this company creates of its own back!  Besides what would a customer with his 20 questions think, if we told him “manager says we’ve only got 5 minutes!” – not much ‘First Contact Delight’ is there Charles?  (Sorry, did we just here you scratching off those Five Fundamentals with your finger nails?)</p>
<p>Is it fair to lose out on bonus payments because they spent a little more time with our customers or did not take a ‘scheduled’ break on time because they were talking to a customer who had a problem created by the company!</p>
<p>Back to those scheduled breaks, why can’t Contact Centre Staff have more say over when we take them as recommended for Display Screen users or to take 5 mins every hour or 15 mins every two hours… since it can go up to 3 hours or more without a break according to the BP ‘schedule’.  In fact why is there no consultation arrangement with staff on any health and safety issue (since it’s the law)? </p>
<p>It’s not surprising after all this (which is just the tip of the iceberg mind) that the HR Director in Warrington is avoiding talks with the Communication Workers Union.</p>
<p>Our glossy Staff Handbooks says the Five Fundamentals apply when we deal with each other too.  So just to make it clear Charles this is not the way we would like to be treated.  When it was boasted about how great this company is and the way it treats employees it was actually an over promise and under deliver.  It’s looking more and more like you’re losing the argument, because if you’re not looking after us the Communication Workers Union will.</p>
<p>“CCCRRAASHH!!!”  (That was just Charles taking a sledge hammer to the 5 Fundamentals…)</p>
<p>TakeTake Website <a href="http://TakeTake.5u.com" rel="nofollow">http://TakeTake.5u.com</a><br />
Complete With A New Forum Set Up For Staff!!!</p>
<p>For Communications &amp; Coordination Of Our Efforts Send An E-Mail To:</p>
<p><a href="mailto:cwu.list@googlemail.com">cwu.list@googlemail.com</a><br />
Use your own (not works) E-mail address.</p>
<p>Hopefully we will get some Give’n’Take from Charlie and his Mobile Factory</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2006/04/27/redaction-of-comments/comment-page-1#comment-7152</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 12:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a similar experience with a horrible car dealer.  My blog post and podcast was spread through the Internet via aggregation feeds.  Eventually, it hit #'s 2, 3, and 4 on Google when searching for the dealer's name.  I left that dealer and went to another.

When I had a similarly poor experience at the second dealer (and posted about that as well), I went back to the original dealer.  They had improved their service, moved into a nice facility, and I was very pleased.  I said as much on the blog and podcast, completely forgetting about my "Google Bomb."

NINE MONTHS LATER. . . 
I get a call from the general manager of the dealership expressing his dismay at my experience and that I had "hacked" the Internet and put up such horrible statements.  He asked me to remove them form Google, which I can't do because they're in Google's cache and actually from other sites that just republish my posts.

I told him I'd add a clarification to my post and announce that all was well.

I agree that you should take down abusive comments and comments that are vulgar for the sake of being vulgar.  But I applaud you for leaving up the original post.

For your enjoyment, here's the page.  No longer linked on my front page, but reachable through search.
http://thinkinganddriving.com/blog/2005/05/18/do-not-buy-a-car-from-jones-junction-bel-air-md/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a similar experience with a horrible car dealer.  My blog post and podcast was spread through the Internet via aggregation feeds.  Eventually, it hit #&#8217;s 2, 3, and 4 on Google when searching for the dealer&#8217;s name.  I left that dealer and went to another.</p>
<p>When I had a similarly poor experience at the second dealer (and posted about that as well), I went back to the original dealer.  They had improved their service, moved into a nice facility, and I was very pleased.  I said as much on the blog and podcast, completely forgetting about my &#8220;Google Bomb.&#8221;</p>
<p>NINE MONTHS LATER. . .<br />
I get a call from the general manager of the dealership expressing his dismay at my experience and that I had &#8220;hacked&#8221; the Internet and put up such horrible statements.  He asked me to remove them form Google, which I can&#8217;t do because they&#8217;re in Google&#8217;s cache and actually from other sites that just republish my posts.</p>
<p>I told him I&#8217;d add a clarification to my post and announce that all was well.</p>
<p>I agree that you should take down abusive comments and comments that are vulgar for the sake of being vulgar.  But I applaud you for leaving up the original post.</p>
<p>For your enjoyment, here&#8217;s the page.  No longer linked on my front page, but reachable through search.<br />
<a href="http://thinkinganddriving.com/blog/2005/05/18/do-not-buy-a-car-from-jones-junction-bel-air-md/" rel="nofollow">http://thinkinganddriving.com/blog/2005/05/18/do-not-buy-a-car-from-jones-junction-bel-air-md/</a></p>
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		<title>By: mojotek</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2006/04/27/redaction-of-comments/comment-page-1#comment-7140</link>
		<dc:creator>mojotek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 13:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I read the first email response, I was kind of appalled that he had written "demand you remove" also.  I'm glad he clarified that with you, especially since you went out of your way to assist him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read the first email response, I was kind of appalled that he had written &#8220;demand you remove&#8221; also.  I&#8217;m glad he clarified that with you, especially since you went out of your way to assist him.</p>
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		<title>By: Merlin</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2006/04/27/redaction-of-comments/comment-page-1#comment-7081</link>
		<dc:creator>Merlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine wrote a post about American History X. He got hundreds of comments from stupid people all giving their views on the movies, the skin heads and so on. Actually very few of them actually read the post. The friend left all the comments as a sociological study.

But since you have "legal" implications, you should make sure that the comments posted on your blog are legal, ie that the claims about CPW that could cause it some prejudice are backed up by facts. Then, if you remove a comment and the commentor wants to fight for his writings, then it might be worth putting him in touch with CPW before reactivating the comment.

But in no case should you take the fight of someone else, especially if the parties are not ready to fight it.

I can confirm that the French "demande" really means "ask" without any menace. As a French speaker, I didn't find the letter agressive in any way. So don't worry too much about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine wrote a post about American History X. He got hundreds of comments from stupid people all giving their views on the movies, the skin heads and so on. Actually very few of them actually read the post. The friend left all the comments as a sociological study.</p>
<p>But since you have &#8220;legal&#8221; implications, you should make sure that the comments posted on your blog are legal, ie that the claims about CPW that could cause it some prejudice are backed up by facts. Then, if you remove a comment and the commentor wants to fight for his writings, then it might be worth putting him in touch with CPW before reactivating the comment.</p>
<p>But in no case should you take the fight of someone else, especially if the parties are not ready to fight it.</p>
<p>I can confirm that the French &#8220;demande&#8221; really means &#8220;ask&#8221; without any menace. As a French speaker, I didn&#8217;t find the letter agressive in any way. So don&#8217;t worry too much about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Freeman</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2006/04/27/redaction-of-comments/comment-page-1#comment-7070</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulation Mike,  your trackback on how to be rich and famous is the 1000th comment :)

That must win a prize ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulation Mike,  your trackback on how to be rich and famous is the 1000th comment :)</p>
<p>That must win a prize ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Hearn</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2006/04/27/redaction-of-comments/comment-page-1#comment-7067</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Hearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, I think it's awesome that on the strength of nothing but the title being indexed by Google you got 999 comments from people who wanted to be rich and famous. That's genius!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, I think it&#8217;s awesome that on the strength of nothing but the title being indexed by Google you got 999 comments from people who wanted to be rich and famous. That&#8217;s genius!</p>
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