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	<title>Comments on: St Julian</title>
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	<description>scratched tallies on the prison wall</description>
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		<title>By: as days pass by &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Men With Bigger Romans</title>
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		<dc:creator>as days pass by &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Men With Bigger Romans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 22:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Last weekend the Gentlemen&#8217;s Philosophical Society of Elvet travelled to York for the Men With Bigger Romans tour, this year&#8217;s installment of the Men With Big (Stones &#124; Thrones &#124; Moans) holiday fact-finding field trip extravaganza series. It was glorious. I have discovered that York Brewery make excellent beer, that Sp. Manlius Fronto (or Tim to his friends) is better at Smuggle (caveat PDF) than I am, even if you steal half his money while he&#8217;s in the toilet, and that the Romans left a lot of stuff lying around the lovely city of Eboracum before they ran off to become the Byzantine Empire. Gn. Quinctilius Praetextatus took some pictures of the GPSoE in his official role as secretary of the Society, so good work fella. We&#8217;re doing this again next year. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Last weekend the Gentlemen&#8217;s Philosophical Society of Elvet travelled to York for the Men With Bigger Romans tour, this year&#8217;s installment of the Men With Big (Stones | Thrones | Moans) holiday fact-finding field trip extravaganza series. It was glorious. I have discovered that York Brewery make excellent beer, that Sp. Manlius Fronto (or Tim to his friends) is better at Smuggle (caveat PDF) than I am, even if you steal half his money while he&#8217;s in the toilet, and that the Romans left a lot of stuff lying around the lovely city of Eboracum before they ran off to become the Byzantine Empire. Gn. Quinctilius Praetextatus took some pictures of the GPSoE in his official role as secretary of the Society, so good work fella. We&#8217;re doing this again next year. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sparkes</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2004/06/17/julian#comment-1557</link>
		<dc:creator>sparkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will use a black countryism because for once it is totally appropriate.&#160; You are going round the Wrekin here.&lt;br /&gt;
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King Arthur wouldn't have lived in Cornwall, until the advent of pasties and surfing the only people who lived in Cornwall spent most of their time underground and seeing pixes (probably on account of the radiation doses they got underground from the granite and radion)&lt;br /&gt;
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Camalot is a lot closer to home, The Wrekin.&#160; Lots of evidence to support this (at least as much as anywhere else) and at least it's closer to where Bran and all the other celtic heros lived and where most of the romantic middle age tales get there heros from ;-)&lt;br /&gt;
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It's the furthest easterly point redefended by a tribe that could have been the origin of some of the hero stories with good views of the midlands from all sides, and a clear run back to the Shropshire and Welsh hills with hundreds of places named after Arthur.&#160; Plus the lake in the middle of the wrekin and a couple of other reoccupied bronze age forts is stuffed full of stone, bronze and iron age votive offerings, surely these are where Excalibur will be found ;-)&lt;br /&gt;
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The only people that placed him in the west country where monks after a bit of dosh and hardup famililes looking to restore there castles, oh and let's not forget kings who wished to be seen as the sucessor to a king that never ruled a nation and probably never ruled a village of his own.&lt;br /&gt;
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See the pasties, ice cream and beer are all good and Tintagel is a nice place.&#160; plus any excuse to see excalibur again ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will use a black countryism because for once it is totally appropriate.&nbsp; You are going round the Wrekin here.</p>
<p>King Arthur wouldn&#8217;t have lived in Cornwall, until the advent of pasties and surfing the only people who lived in Cornwall spent most of their time underground and seeing pixes (probably on account of the radiation doses they got underground from the granite and radion)</p>
<p>Camalot is a lot closer to home, The Wrekin.&nbsp; Lots of evidence to support this (at least as much as anywhere else) and at least it&#8217;s closer to where Bran and all the other celtic heros lived and where most of the romantic middle age tales get there heros from ;-)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the furthest easterly point redefended by a tribe that could have been the origin of some of the hero stories with good views of the midlands from all sides, and a clear run back to the Shropshire and Welsh hills with hundreds of places named after Arthur.&nbsp; Plus the lake in the middle of the wrekin and a couple of other reoccupied bronze age forts is stuffed full of stone, bronze and iron age votive offerings, surely these are where Excalibur will be found ;-)</p>
<p>The only people that placed him in the west country where monks after a bit of dosh and hardup famililes looking to restore there castles, oh and let&#8217;s not forget kings who wished to be seen as the sucessor to a king that never ruled a nation and probably never ruled a village of his own.</p>
<p>See the pasties, ice cream and beer are all good and Tintagel is a nice place.&nbsp; plus any excuse to see excalibur again ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Peter J.</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2004/06/17/julian#comment-1558</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out "Jack Whyte's":&lt;a href="http://www.camulod.com/"&gt;http://www.camulod.com/&lt;/a&gt; "A Dream of Eagles" series, a historical fiction take on Arthur et al.&#160; Starts with the Romans in "The Skystone" and Arthur is born somewhere around book 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out &#8220;Jack Whyte&#8217;s&#8221;:<a href="http://www.camulod.com/">http://www.camulod.com/</a> &#8220;A Dream of Eagles&#8221; series, a historical fiction take on Arthur et al.&nbsp; Starts with the Romans in &#8220;The Skystone&#8221; and Arthur is born somewhere around book 3.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2004/06/17/julian#comment-1559</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a copy of &lt;em&gt;The quest for Arthur's Britain / Geoffrey Ashe ... [et al]. London : Paladin, 1971. ix, 238 p. [64] p. of plates : ill., maps ; 20 cm.&lt;/em&gt; I'll send you a copy of chapter 3, which is entitled &lt;em&gt;Romance and reality in Cornwall / C.A. Ralegh Radford.&lt;/em&gt;. Quite scholarly, and talks a lot about Tintagel and Arthur's birth, though not too much about Camelot, sadly. It seems the (Arthurian) story of Tristan/Tristram involves Cornwall a lot too.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a copy of <em>The quest for Arthur&#8217;s Britain / Geoffrey Ashe &#8230; [et al]. London : Paladin, 1971. ix, 238 p. [64] p. of plates : ill., maps ; 20 cm.</em> I&#8217;ll send you a copy of chapter 3, which is entitled <em>Romance and reality in Cornwall / C.A. Ralegh Radford.</em>. Quite scholarly, and talks a lot about Tintagel and Arthur&#8217;s birth, though not too much about Camelot, sadly. It seems the (Arthurian) story of Tristan/Tristram involves Cornwall a lot too.</p>
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