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		<title>By: kiran</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2004/01/31/testingMore#comment-4046</link>
		<dc:creator>kiran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hai All,
I  have  somewhat similar problem.
I am testing a site using HttpUnit .
The site  uses Javascript Redirects instead of  normal Hyperlinks.

I must now test the links &#38; navigate to the next page.
I  can use ieHttpHeader1 v1.6 or the proxy  http://freshmeat.net/projects/loxy/
to show the headers sent between the browser and server.
But is it possible to simulate the same in HttpUnit and continue Testing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hai All,<br />
I  have  somewhat similar problem.<br />
I am testing a site using HttpUnit .<br />
The site  uses Javascript Redirects instead of  normal Hyperlinks.</p>
<p>I must now test the links &amp; navigate to the next page.<br />
I  can use ieHttpHeader1 v1.6 or the proxy  <a href="http://freshmeat.net/projects/loxy/" rel="nofollow">http://freshmeat.net/projects/loxy/</a><br />
to show the headers sent between the browser and server.<br />
But is it possible to simulate the same in HttpUnit and continue Testing.</p>
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		<title>By: Millennium</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2004/01/31/testingMore#comment-1859</link>
		<dc:creator>Millennium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's a piece of software out there called "Badboy":&lt;a href="http://www.badboy.com.au/"&gt;http://www.badboy.com.au/&lt;/a&gt; which looks like it'd do what you want, but unfortunately it only works for IE/Win. It can export to JMeter, but JMeter doesn't really do all of what you want either.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nevertheless, it's a place to start. I've always wished something like this existed for Mozilla. Anyone know of anything like this in development?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a piece of software out there called &#8220;Badboy&#8221;:<a href="http://www.badboy.com.au/">http://www.badboy.com.au/</a> which looks like it&#8217;d do what you want, but unfortunately it only works for IE/Win. It can export to JMeter, but JMeter doesn&#8217;t really do all of what you want either.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, it&#8217;s a place to start. I&#8217;ve always wished something like this existed for Mozilla. Anyone know of anything like this in development?</p>
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		<title>By: Andyed</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2004/01/31/testingMore#comment-1860</link>
		<dc:creator>Andyed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're setting the bar high!&lt;br /&gt;
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So I have a project for Mozilla that: installs as a priveledged sidebar, saves data to the filesystem, and watchs page loads in the main window.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It's Mozilla only -- circumventing the chrome restriction.&#160; There's not going to be a way to bypass those restrictions thats common for moz and ie.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It knows how to save data to the filesystem, but doesn't record or playback events -- nonetheless, it's a good start for this type of tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re setting the bar high!</p>
<p>So I have a project for Mozilla that: installs as a priveledged sidebar, saves data to the filesystem, and watchs page loads in the main window.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s Mozilla only &#8212; circumventing the chrome restriction.&nbsp; There&#8217;s not going to be a way to bypass those restrictions thats common for moz and ie.</p>
<p>It knows how to save data to the filesystem, but doesn&#8217;t record or playback events &#8212; nonetheless, it&#8217;s a good start for this type of tool.</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2004/01/31/testingMore#comment-1861</link>
		<dc:creator>Clayton Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is more doable with a proxy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Put a web proxy betwen your browser and any server and you now can record any part of your web transaction.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are a few Web testing tools that take this approach listed on freshmeat.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is more doable with a proxy.</p>
<p>Put a web proxy betwen your browser and any server and you now can record any part of your web transaction.</p>
<p>There are a few Web testing tools that take this approach listed on freshmeat.net</p>
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		<title>By: sil</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2004/01/31/testingMore#comment-1862</link>
		<dc:creator>sil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Web proxies will only record settings that get sent back to the server. So, as I said above, "Ive seen proxy applications, where the proxy seamlessly inserts stuff into your pagethe ones designed for web testing, though, dont do any JavaScript stuff, so they can only test form submissions and so on. I dont want thatI want to be able to track what a user does the whole time theyre testing, including whether any interactive stuff on the page works."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Web proxies will only record settings that get sent back to the server. So, as I said above, &#8220;Ive seen proxy applications, where the proxy seamlessly inserts stuff into your pagethe ones designed for web testing, though, dont do any JavaScript stuff, so they can only test form submissions and so on. I dont want thatI want to be able to track what a user does the whole time theyre testing, including whether any interactive stuff on the page works.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2004/01/31/testingMore#comment-1863</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;m looking for the same thing.  I&#8217;d be willing to settle for Mozilla or IE only.    After seeing projects that tortuously try to reconstruct the page in order to script it, I thought why duplicate javascript, dom, and cookies, come up with your own script and event model?  You&#8217;re bound to introduce bugs.  HttpUnit + JTidy + Rhino + SunJSSE + custom cookie, session handling &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;DOES NOT&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; behave the same as &lt;span class="caps"&gt;IE6&lt;/span&gt;.0 or Mozilla 1.7.3.   I&#8217;m wondering if your idea of a sidebar (or frameset) with a build of Mozilla with security yanked out would be enough to do it?  I&#8217;ve tested it on local objects, and it works pretty good there.  Combined with a &lt;span class="caps"&gt;DOM&lt;/span&gt; inspector to provide input, you could easily have a &#8220;test controller&#8221; frame drive a &#8220;test subject&#8221; frame with nothing more than the built in javascript &lt;span class="caps"&gt;DOM&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking for the same thing.  I&#8217;d be willing to settle for Mozilla or IE only.    After seeing projects that tortuously try to reconstruct the page in order to script it, I thought why duplicate javascript, dom, and cookies, come up with your own script and event model?  You&#8217;re bound to introduce bugs.  HttpUnit + JTidy + Rhino + SunJSSE + custom cookie, session handling <strong><span class="caps">DOES NOT</span></strong> behave the same as <span class="caps">IE6</span>.0 or Mozilla 1.7.3.   I&#8217;m wondering if your idea of a sidebar (or frameset) with a build of Mozilla with security yanked out would be enough to do it?  I&#8217;ve tested it on local objects, and it works pretty good there.  Combined with a <span class="caps">DOM</span> inspector to provide input, you could easily have a &#8220;test controller&#8221; frame drive a &#8220;test subject&#8221; frame with nothing more than the built in javascript <span class="caps">DOM</span>.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Tonkin</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2004/01/31/testingMore#comment-1864</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Tonkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi all.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;ve investigated this rather thoroughly too, I think my initial need is the same as Sils : record the user interactions within a browsing session (not just the &lt;span class="caps"&gt;URL&lt;/span&gt; calls), for plugging the recorded script back into a real browser. By real browser I mean one which will play the whole show (with UI redirect to /dev/null): fetch all content, then execute of javascripts, possibly even initiate flash animations &#38;c.. The player would of course record all stats for whatever use you might want them (performance testing, content check, bug track).&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;There are many problems, Sil enumerates a good few, security being the major one of course.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;ve investigated several possibilities: &#8211; do an &#8216;anonymizer.com&#8217; style frontal, which redirects all URLs contained within a page. Frankly anonymizer.com has trouble with content using this method, and javascript &#38;c. are impossible to do. &#8211; place a recording UI on top of Mozilla. See Sils post for this. &#8211; set up a reverse proxy-proxy pair with a recorder and cookie sessions added in the middle. Javascript and other nifty stuff won&#8217;t be possible.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;The most promising is surely slapping a frontal on a Mozilla engine, But it will be trickier than just a &lt;span class="caps"&gt;XUL&lt;/span&gt; extension. Handling widgets for one will be rather fun.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t have the competence to code this, but if we&#8217;re a few interested, it might be worth the while to set up a Mozdev project?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve investigated this rather thoroughly too, I think my initial need is the same as Sils : record the user interactions within a browsing session (not just the <span class="caps">URL</span> calls), for plugging the recorded script back into a real browser. By real browser I mean one which will play the whole show (with UI redirect to /dev/null): fetch all content, then execute of javascripts, possibly even initiate flash animations &#38;c.. The player would of course record all stats for whatever use you might want them (performance testing, content check, bug track).</p>
<p>There are many problems, Sil enumerates a good few, security being the major one of course.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve investigated several possibilities: &#8211; do an &#8216;anonymizer.com&#8217; style frontal, which redirects all URLs contained within a page. Frankly anonymizer.com has trouble with content using this method, and javascript &#38;c. are impossible to do. &#8211; place a recording UI on top of Mozilla. See Sils post for this. &#8211; set up a reverse proxy-proxy pair with a recorder and cookie sessions added in the middle. Javascript and other nifty stuff won&#8217;t be possible.</p>
<p>The most promising is surely slapping a frontal on a Mozilla engine, But it will be trickier than just a <span class="caps">XUL</span> extension. Handling widgets for one will be rather fun.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t have the competence to code this, but if we&#8217;re a few interested, it might be worth the while to set up a Mozdev project?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2004/01/31/testingMore#comment-1865</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi there,&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;please find a good and ,low cost testing tool JStudio SiteWalker to automate web application &lt;span class="caps"&gt;GUI&lt;/span&gt; and validate any content. Because of it&#8217;s element based action handling many scenarios can be automated, many expensive tools cannot do. Find more info at www.jstudio.de&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Have fun.&lt;/p&gt;
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,</p>
<p>please find a good and ,low cost testing tool JStudio SiteWalker to automate web application <span class="caps">GUI</span> and validate any content. Because of it&#8217;s element based action handling many scenarios can be automated, many expensive tools cannot do. Find more info at <a href="http://www.jstudio.de" rel="nofollow">http://www.jstudio.de</a></p>
<p>Have fun.</p>
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