I saw Revolutions. A review crammed full of spoilers, so don’t read any further if you don’t want to be spoiled!
It was shit.
Not at all impressed.
The first part was boring and tedious bullshit (I actually fell asleep in the cinema for a few seconds until I was nudged!), the middle part was cliched war film bullshit, and the last part was incomprehensible bullshit.
Not a favourable assessment, I think you’ll agree.
It’s possible that it’s deep and meaningful and I am too stupid to understand it. Entirely possible. But I didn’t understand it. Not the end, anyway, and not most of the film either. For example:
- Was it all a clever master plan by the Oracle or what?
- When did Smith go from being a random ex-Agent who could duplicate himself to being such a serious threat to the whole fabric of existence that the machines were prepared to end the war just to be rid of him?
- What the fuck did the little girl have to do with anything?
- How lame was Bane, eh? “Ha haaa! I’m Smith in the real world, come to kick your arse, Neo! Ahaha! Oh, I’m dead.” He did manage to blind Neo, though, which leads me to:
- Oh no, Neo’s blind, we’d better give him sight made out of fire so he’s not blind at all! What’s up with that? He already had special green Matrix vision; bloke must have forgotten what real colours look like.
- Was there any point at all to the bit in the train station? The Train Man seemed to just be there to leer a bit and look menacing, and the Merovingian was barely even in it?
- Why would you have Larry Fishburne on the payroll and not use him hardly at all? Criminal!
- Keanu can’t emote for shit, either, looking at Trinity’s death scene.
- The fighting was all arse! It was pretty arse in Reloaded, too, mind; don’t know whether this was just familiarity breeding contempt or something else.
Essentially, I could rant for hours about its sheer randomness. When we watched Reloaded, everyone said that it was obviously impossible to assess it without having seen Revolutions, because it was so obviously half a film. Having watched Revolutions, I’m still waiting for the second half of Reloaded, because that just wasn’t it. No questions raised by Reloaded were answered, hardly any plotlines resolved. In the midst of Reloaded’s plethora of random fight scenes and Neo superheroism it was at least not too difficult to find really good bits (Morpheus’ speech to Zion, the car chase, the Oracle’s explanation). I’m hard-pushed to find one thing I actually liked about Revolutions.
Words cannot describe how completely and abjectly let-down and disappointed I am by this.
Matrix Revolutions? Matrix Revulsions. Spare me the inevitable next film.
Tetsujin, i am so glad SOMEBODY understands the damn movie. i will admit that it does not make every thing as clear as modern audiences like, but hey, isn’t there something to be said for a movie you have the THINK about? (and the smith-neo fight was good only if you appreciated the build-up and the drama thus far. if you were sick of the movie by that point, there was no feeling in it and its function as the obligatory scene was completely lost. watch it again understanding the fundamental conflict between the two characters; neo’s self determination and smith’s complete surrender to nihilism.)
Posted by Michael on November 10th, 2003.
Neo is a machine, kinda. He is a human with enhanced genetics, enhanced implants, and a machine programmed mind (probably based on a “The One” template program). That’s why, at the end of Revolutions, when his body is being taken away, he is shown as an orange glow. The orange glow is how the machines see each other, and therefore how they see Neo. It is also how Neo sees Smith inside Bane… he is seeing the machine program of Smith inside Bane’s mind, and therefore it is an orange glow in the shape of the Smith.
But the orange glow isn’t the only reason to believe Neo is a machine. Throughout the trilogy other hints are given, such as: “His neural kinetics are way above normal.“, “He’s a machine.“, “Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication…“, etc.
So if Neo is a machine, why was he created (as all machines must have a purpose)? He was created by the Oracle and the Architect to be The One. As the Architect explains to him: “Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the Matrix… Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication, a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of The One… The function of The One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program.”
Translated, the Architect is explaining that Neo was designed to be a religious figure to the freed humans, thus causing them to put their faith (hope) in Neo and to rally around him (“…sum of a remainder…“). This helps to ensure that the freed humans are focused on Neo instead of war, and to keep them all together in one place, Zion (which was built by the machines for this purpose also). Neo is a form of control in the real world.
And just to make sure that Neo carries out his part of their plan, the machines programmed him with “… a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the [humans].” This, along with his enhanced abilities and the “guidance” of the Oracle, keeps him on the intended course.
The Architect also states that “The function of The One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program.” This simply means that The One program in Neo’s mind is the most important (prime) program in the Matrix, and that now that his mission (purpose) is complete, he must return to the source for deletion (all machines must have a purpose). The phrase “… temporary dissemination…” means that the The One program will be used again in the next version of the Matrix. This is also why Neo’s choice of the left door will destroy the Matrix, as there can be only one The One in the Matrix at any time. By staying in the Matrix Neo is preventing it from being reloaded, as a reload will do nothing without another The One for the next version. (In programming terms he is the highest priority task, and he will not release the Matrix program’s main semaphore.)
OK, so The One is a human with enhanced genetics, enhanced implants, and a machine programmed mind, and was created by the Oracle and the Architect to carry out a specific purpose (form of control in and out of the Matrix) in each iteration of the Matrix. Now let’s see how The One fits in with the entire story of the trilogy.
As is explained, the Matrix was created by the Architect, at the end of the war with the humans, as a way to control the humans and use them as a power source (I know, hard to believe…). The first Matrix was “… quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime.“, while the second Matrix was redesigned “… to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature.” Basically Heaven and then Hell. In both cases, however, no conscious choice was given to the humans as to whether or not they wanted to believe in the reality of the Matrix. This caused the majority of humans to reject the Matrix and die (“… whole crops were lost.“).
To solve this problem the Oracle was created, and realized correctly that the humans needed to be given a choice: “Thus, the answer was stumbled upon by another, an intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche… she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99.9% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level.” So by giving humans a choice, even at an unconscious level that only 0.1% are ever aware of, they accepted the Matrix.
Unfortunately for the machines, however, a majority of the 0.1% who were aware of the choice usually chose the real world over the Matrix. “While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly, that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked, would constitute an escalating probability of disaster.” The machines therefore also needed a way to control the 0.1% of the humans who chose the real world over the Matrix, thus Zion and The One were created.
As was explained earlier, Zion was built by the machines to ensure that the freed humans would all gather in one place, and The One was created to be their religious figure, helping to distract them from renewed war with the machines. Both forms of control.
But even with Zion and The One, the unpredictability of choice (“systemic anomoly“) still forced the machines to occasionally “reload” the Matrix. This always occurs when The One reaches the Source, which he can only do after attaining the level of power necessary for him to defeat the Merovingian, obtain the Keymaker, etc. The One program is then temporarily reinserted into the Source (machine mainframe), in preparation for the next iteration of the Matrix. In the process the machines gain the knowledge and experiences of The One, allowing them to better predict the future behavior of the humans, and thus reduce the systemic anomolies.
So that is the situation at the start of the sixth iteration of the choice-Matrix. Luckily for the humans, however, the Oracle does not want them to be enslaved in the Matrix any longer, or for the freed humans to be killed. She therefore decides to take a risk and use Neo to bring about a “revolution“.
In M1 (The Matrix) she meets with The One, Neo, as she has done in the five previous iterations of the Matrix. Normally she simply helps guide The One to his meeting with the Architect. Except this time the Oracle gives Neo a special cookie, which he eats. The cookie isn’t actually a cookie, though, it’s an upgrade to Neo’s program. Since the Oracle created the The One program, she can predict exactly what Neo will do in the future, specifically how he will destroy Smith (from the inside, with some copying from Neo to Smith occuring). She therefore includes in the program upgrade code that will give Smith the ability to replicate himself, and for Neo and Smith to see the future as she does.
In M2 (The Matrix Reloaded) Neo plays out his role as The One, meeting with the Architect. However, due to his love for Trinity he chooses the left door, preventing the Matrix from reloading. This was seen in advance by the Oracle, as she has the ability to predict Neo’s behavior (as explained above) as well as human behavior in general (due to the nature of her program). She therefore told Trinity that she would fall in love with Neo (in M1), all the while knowing it would eventually cause Neo to choose the left door.
In M3 (The Matrix Revolutions) the Oracle’s plan comes to fruition. While the machines begin their assualt on Zion (for the sixth time), Smith continues to replicate himself throughout the Matrix. Neo, on the otherhand, is stuck in the train station. Apparently, fulfilling his mission to meet with the Architect unlocks some section of his program that allows Neo to use his enhanced implants to once again become part of the machine collective (perhaps because of the Oracle’s upgrade?). He is therefore able to sense and control other machines wirelessly. The first example of this is when he stops the sentinels at the end of M2. Since he is not quite ready to use his new abilities, however, his program gets stuck at the security checkpoint of the Matrix, the train station.
In the train station Neo meets with Rama Kandra, his wife, and their daughter Sati. Rama and his wife are both machines from the real world who can jack into the Matrix, like all other machines, and live human lives. Sati is a program created by these two machines out of love, which Rama explains to Neo is not out of the grasp of the machines. They are on their way back into the Matrix to leave Sati with the Oracle for safe keeping, as any program without a purpose is deleted.
After being rescued from the train station by Trinity, Morpheus, and Seraph, Neo is helped out of the Matrix using the standard jack. While aboard the Hammer he has another vision of the future, this time of the three power lines leading from the Matrix power station to 01, the machine city (he is able to see the power lines due to his newfound connection to the machine collective). He therefore takes the Logos, along with Trinity, and leaves for 01. Along the way he confronts the stowaway Bane (who has the Smith program inside of him), and is blinded by him. Although blind, Neo is still able to see other machines (orange glow), including the Smith program inside Bane, which he uses to defeat Bane. He also uses his power to control other machines to detonate the bombs fired at the Logos by the 01 defenses.
Meanwhile Smith is replicating out of control in the Matrix, and eventually confronts the Oracle after taking over Seraph and Sati. They have a brief conversation in which he calls her “Mom“, referring to the fact that she helped to create him (along with the Architect) as well as Neo (part of his program now). The Oracle then tells Smith to “Do what you came here to do.“, so he takes over her as well. The newly formed Smith then stands up and laughs hysterically, foreshadowing the events at the end of the movie.
Eventually the Logos crashes in 01, but not before Neo gets a top-down view of the orange glowing city with his newfound machine-vision (notice the fractal patterns). Unfortunately Trinity is killed in the crash, and explains to Neo that both of them have been living on borrowed time. Neo since he was ressurected by Trinity, and Trinity since she was ressurected by Neo. Both are meant to die and Trinity is simply happy for the oportunity this time to tell Neo how she feels about him. (But shame on the brothers for killing off Trinity in such a lame way. Couldn’t she have at least died trying to save the ship, not just letting it crash!)
Neo then leaves the Logos and enters the machine building into which it crashed (the building is seen in the same orange glowing machine-vision). He is then confronted by the Deus Ex Machina, who knows that Neo is the only one who can stop Smith from destroying the Matrix, but still shows hatred toward Neo (due to the fact that he is mostly human). After a show of force, the Deus Ex Machina agrees to peace with the humans in exchange for Neo’s promise to destroy Smith. This causes the sentinels to halt their attack on the Zion temple, the last holdout of the remaining humans (the dock and city have already been destroyed).
The machines then jack Neo into the Matrix, since he has not yet masterred the ability to do so wirelessly (this theme of Neo having to learn to use his new abilities runs throughout the trilogy). Neo then confronts Smith, who says he has seen the future, and that he (the one particular Smith) is the one that defeats Neo. The other Smiths (all of the other people in the Matrix have now been taken over by him) therefore only watch as the fight begins.
After a brutal battle Neo is near defeat, but continues to fight. When asked why he does so, Neo responds “Because I choose to.“, echoing the theme in M2 that “Everything begins with choice.” (the only way humans achieve true freedom). But even though he delivers a stunning punch to Smith which sends him through the ground, Neo is eventually defeated. Before Smith takes him over he pauses, however, realizing that he has seen this very moment in his visions, and he already knows what he is going to say. “Everything that has a beginning has an end…” he mutters confusedly. This causes Neo to realize that the Oracle still exists somewhere inside of Smith, and that she is partially able to control his thoughts. Taking his cue from the Oracle, Neo freely gives himself to Smith.
Thus Neo is defeated, and Smith’s original purpose, to defeat The One (which he is never really expected to achieve, which leads to his bad temperment) is accomplished. Smith therefore no longer has a purpose and must be deleted. But since programs marked for deletion must return to the source, how is Smith to be deleted? Simple, the machines send the command through Neo, into Smith, using a burst of energy. This causes all of the Smith clones, and the original Smith, to be deleted, leaving the original inhabitants of the bodies he has taken over (this is a basic function of the agent programs, that they leave their hosts as they found them, with death being the only exception).
This then completes another revolution in the Matrix cycle, as The One has reached the Source and has reinserted the prime program (Neo’s program, his knowledge and experiences). The Matrix is then reloaded back to it’s initial state, the late 20th century.
The Oracle then meets with Sati, Seraph, and the Architect in a park outside the city as the sun rises over it. The Architect tells her that she was playing a “very risky game“, and she asks him if he will honor the promise of peace. He says that he will, since he is not human (meaning humans do not keep their promises, an insult). This means that those people who unconsciously become aware of the Matrix and choose to leave will be freed, and those living in Zion will not be killed. The war between man and machine is over, or at least suspended.
Looking upon the sunrise the Oracle asks Sati if that was her doing, and the girl responds that she did it for Neo (made the sun rise). Apparently Neo’s experience with love, which was uploaded from him to the Source, caused the machines to show pity on Sati and give her a purpose instead of deleting her. She is now in control of the sun. Sati also asks the Oracle if they will ever see Neo again, and the Oracle replies that they might, indicating that the The One program will be used again in the future, as it had been for the previous six iterations of the Matrix. M3 therefore ends where M1 began, except that now the humans who become aware of the Matrix will be freed (a decent compromise if you ask me). -Agent Jones [Matrix Fans.net]
Well, if you have an questions after reading that.. then you’re a fucking moron.
Posted by Tetsujin on November 10th, 2003.
Aargh! That was a Textile-style list, that made far more sense than the munged version.
Posted by Gary F on November 10th, 2003.
Answers to Stuarts questions in order asked:
I’d say yes,After he became Neo’s evil twin (all he needed was a goatee – obscure South Patk reference),Watch the other hour of the film that was in the game Enter The Matrix. It not only tells you what the little girl is about, but exactly what happened to the Oracle,Bane was very lame. Lamer than a Llama,They should’ve given his real-world Machine-o-vision a green tinge, I agree, but does it really matter?,Yes! The train station bit is very important, because of the little girl. Train man was a tad unnecessary (he pops up in the game for a few seconds too, and adds nothing). I’m tempted to say the Merovingian shouldn’t have been in it at all, despite being a great character. A few of the remarks he makes about the Oracle are kinda important (although they could’ve been moved to elsewhere),Did you see how bad Fishburne was in Reloaded? Uber-hammy acting! I’m just glad he pulled himself back together for the last part,Keanu Reeves is well known to be somewhere between human and wood,True, I especially disliked the final Agent Smith/Neo fight. The generic war stuff in the middle was some nice eye candy though. Mindless, but pretty.
Although the game is mostly terrible (horribly done, 90% filler), it has some interesting things to add.
Posted by Gary F on November 10th, 2003.
Um, you thought the speech to Zion was a good bit? Ugh.
Posted by Dorothea Salo on November 10th, 2003.
Dull and derivative: apart from the lazy borrowing of an entire scene from the first film and the endless squiddy Aliens retreading, doesn’t the end feel like Tron meets Raiders Of The Lost Ark?
Posted by James Kew on November 10th, 2003.
+1
The list of plot holes and discarded story threads could go on forever.
Posted by Ronaldo on November 10th, 2003.
I’m with you; I think the Wachowskis would have been better off leaving the first film as-is.
Though the shot of all of those APUs opening fire within Zion’s dock walls was pretty damn impressive. Cliched as all hell, but impressive.
Posted by Ethan on November 10th, 2003.
I agree with you. What a bag of toss. I wrote up a similar review on my blog. Boredom concentrated into two hours of shit.
Posted by Jono on November 26th, 2003.
well I thought Neo was using 802.11b to control the matrix (with his neoro implant) but I guess the explanation about is better.
Posted by owen on November 28th, 2003.
From the architect Neo hears that his function is now to return to the source allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry reinserting the prime program. He also says that Neos life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent in the programming of the matrix. Remember that the Architect also says that the first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect. Neo does not fulfill his function (as per the architects definition of it). Why? Because, in Neos words, the problem is choice. Neo has choice and few others in the Matrix do. What are the AI programs like the Architect and Merovingian after? More control of the choices of others. How do they hope to get it? Through Neo.
Let me start with something the key maker said. It was that 314 seconds the key maker talked about between when the connection is severed and the next one must first be made. Since nothing in the matrix happens by chance, why the number 314. Then I thought about the Architects statement that Neos life was the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent in the programming of the matrix. Neo was the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. 314 seconds. What about 3.14? 3.14 are the first three numbers of pi. The definition of pi follows.
pi (pronounced “pie”) This is a ratio obtained by dividing the circumference by the diameter (C/d), or circumference divided by 2 times the radius (C/2r). This ratio is always the same regardless the size of the circle. Although the true, complete number has never been found, an acceptable working approximation is 3.1415.
Hmmmmm the complete number has never been found. It cannot be found because it goes on forever. That is, Pi sounds like it meets the criteria for an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision.
So Neo is the sum of the remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent in the programming of the matrix. In other words the sum of all those numbers after 3.14
(Notice that the next number after the 3.14 is 1. Also notice that the key maker says that the length and breath of the window is exactly 314 seconds. To speak in terms of length of time OK but breath of time? Breath would imply a second dimension .a circle perhaps? The key maker is a very old program so he thinks that its exactly 314 because this is the figure originally used when the key maker was programmed. But in the words of agent Smith not exactly)
So what is Neos function? I believe it is to gather information. Information from the other programs regarding their corruption from choice. Choice is bound up with the notion of the inexactness that is represented by pi. The problem for the Architect is all those never ending numbers after 3.14 Neos function is to gather this information regarding this never ending number and to return this information to the source (the mainframe) so that the machines can get more (mathematical) control of the numbers past 3.14. Remember the Architect says The function of the One is now to return to the source allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry reinserting the prime program.
The problem for the Architect is that Neo does not reinsert himself into the source. He abandons his function, for a purpose. The code he carrys is the information he has gathered from the other programs about their choices. His purpose is keep it from the AI programs in the matrix who want to gain access to this information and achieve more control.
Notice how Trinity and Morpheus are no longer running from the agents as they were in the first movie. Why? I believe it is because Neo has the ability to transfer his code to others. Unfortunately agent smith has learned to do this as well, through his contact with Neo. Neo also gathers code on others choices and this is what the AI s are after. Remember that Neos life is the sum of an unbalanced equation So, as he has more experience he will contribute more code to the source. The code of course are those pesky and innumerable numbers past 3.14 that the Architect used as a rounded off approximation for pi in the first version of the matrix.
12:06 AM
Wednesday, June 04, 2003
I got to thinking about how those in the matrix exchange code. The oracles bodyguard says something to the effect that you do not know someone till you fight them. When Neo fights the agents near the start of the second film he says upgrades because he was not able to anticipate one of their moves. .:. I assume that by fighting there is code exchanged.
Code seems to be exchanged in more obvious ways such as the piece of cake given to the blond by Merovingian. In more subtle ways also in the first movie the Oracle offers Neo a cookie and says you will feel right as rain when he has finished it. Come on, a cookie! How much more obvious can you get for exchanging code? (This just recently struck me). Still another reference is the red pill or the blue pill choice. These physical exchanges are, I believe, exchanges of code within the matrix . http://www.j.com
Posted by jay on March 5th, 2004.
Did anyone see the magnet on The Oracle’s fridge in Matrix Revolutions that says ‘m4?’ – have you heard anything about another installment being on the way?
Posted by Zion0101 on March 23rd, 2004.
Can we all just calm down?
Posted by GB on March 25th, 2004.
Some of you people need to unplug and read a book or learn something of the world around you. I found all 3 of these movies to be outstanding. Heaped with not only action and effects but symbolism and a serious message.
I’ll get to the message in a second. If you’re going to say it’s crap.. at least give a reason… if you’re going to say there’s plot holes then list them off…
So I don’t just go resubmitting things that have already been said I’m going to add a couple ideas of my own.
1. Neo and Smith are each half of a whole. They are part of each other… ying&yang if you will. light and dark. In M1 when the Oracle told Neo that he wasn’t the one and maybe in the next life.. she was right… it wasn’t until Smith shot Neo AND Neo merged with Smith did he become The One. Neo and Smith merged and then broke apart… leaving Neo with some of Smith inside him and vice versa…. this is where Neo’s powers and understanding grew to enormous levels… and Smith on the other side became completely “self-aware” if you will… he exceded his programming and also gained powers and understanding on huge levels. This is why in the end Neo realised that nether one of them could win the battle. So allowing Smith to merge with him, while Neo was connected to the Source, they became whole and were destroyed .. returning to the Source… the cycle was complete “Everything that has a beginning, has an end”
2. On that note.. I think there is a line that is unsaid but implied. “Everything that has an end has a beginning” or “From death will come life”. In death, Neo/Smith allowed for a new begining in the matrix and the real world. Saving both humans and machines. The little girl (Sati) represents that new begining for the machines.. the replacement for the old programs like the Architect and Oracle who are no longer needed. And there was the hint that Neo would return… like he had before.
3. The Architect and Oracle. Again I’m going to go back to the Ying and Yang. In this case I think you can relate them to Alpha and Omega. They are Opposites that create balance. Alpha meaning begining being the Architect. He is the creator of the matrix…. and Omega meaning the end of course being the Oracle… who forsees the end to the war and the matrix as they know it. They also balance each other out. The Architect being of pure logic “he can’t see past the next choice” and The Oracle representing faith and other humanistic qualities.
There are many many other hidden meanings and concepts that I would urge you to discover. Or you could just say that it’s crap. But it won’t make a difference because:
It is what it is because it is.
That’s what I think the message of the movie is. You don’t need to agree with it… just accept it.
Posted by I Lawrence on April 8th, 2004.
Thanks for explaining it all. I had no clues and thought the film was crap when i first watched. I just wish there was more Matrix and less fighting in M3.
Posted by Orlando Yet on April 11th, 2004.
After seeing Revolutions for the second time, I have some thoughts of my own that I feel compelled to share. Here we go…
I hate to say it, but I think one of the main “morals” of the story is the persistance and strength of love. We see it in M1 when the Oracle tells Trinity that she will fall in love with The One…that’s just the beginning. In M2, it is Neo’s love that saves Trinity (along with his uncanny ability to manipulate the Matrix, reach into the chick’s chest and massage her heart back to live). Also, in M2, we’re introduced to Link and his woman (can’t remember her name) whose love, while little background is give, is made clear in the dialogue.
So – onto M3. At the very beginning, we find Sati and her parents in the train station. Her father says that he loves his daughter, which is exactly why he’s saving her from deletion. Sati is a program who “serves no purpose,” yet she’s taken to the Oracle for safe-keeping (more on that later). Neo is confused when her father says that he “loves” her because he’s never heard of a machine/program loving anything.
Skipping to the end of M3 – the final scene – the Architect asks the Oracle how long she thinks the peace will last. The Oracle responds “for as long as it can.” The Oracle then asks if all of “the rest will be freed…” The Architect responds yes to that question and immediately after, Sati enters…she points to the beautiful sunrise and the Oracle asks “did you do that?” And Sati responds yes.
When I first saw M3, I was totally confused by the ending. When the Oracle asked if the rest would be freed, I thought she was talking about the rest of the humans that were in the Matrix. And I had NO idea what was up with Sati and her whole roll in things.
Now, I think I have a better idea of what was going on. Sati is love – and with love comes beauty and peace and all that foo-foo stuff. Sati is the object of love of her parents – she’s a “useless” program set for deletion (machines/programs have no use for love) – she is so important, that the Oracle is her guardian in the Matrix – she creates beauty. Sati is love.
When the Oracle asks if the others will be freed, she’s talking about the other so-called “useless” programs – those that are likely similar to Sati in uselessness – programs responsible for love, beauty, peace – all things that are not “necessary” in the machine world.
And remember what Smith says during the final fight with Neo in M3 – “only a human mind could invent something as insipid as LOVE…” WRONG!!! We learn in the beginning of the movie that programs are capable of the same connection – love. By introducting love into the Matrix, who knows what is possible – which is perhaps the reason for the Oracle’s reply to the Architect regarding the lasting peace…”for as long as it can…” It’s an unknown path, for with love comes uncertainty.
It’s no wonder why the Architect has scheduled such programs as Sati for deletion all along…with love comes the unknown. The Architect is obsessed with the balanced equation – and by adding love into the mix, it only adds further imbalance to the equation. In fact, I think it’s safe to say that it’s Neo’s LOVE for Trinity that causes him to choose the impossible path at the end of M2 – Neo makes a decision that the Architect could never predict.
I think the love theme isn’t just a “ooh baby, I love you so much” kinda thing…I think it’s more of a “brotherly/sisterly love” thing. It’s a pretty powerful message: love is more than a variable, it’s a complete unknown…and it’s value is limitless…love spawns love…whether it’s a machine, a person, a program – love is love – it conquers all.
just my 2 cents…I’m sure next time I watch the movie, I’ll have a different opinion ;)
-Andrew
Posted by Zandy1123 on April 14th, 2004.
how could u say it sucks?
oh I know you couldn’t watch the whole thing because were to busy typing you worthless opinon on the internet.
your all fucking losers
Posted by NEO on April 14th, 2004.
how could u say it sucks?
oh I know you couldn’t watch the whole thing because were to busy typing you worthless opinon on the internet.
your all fucking losers
Posted by NEO on April 14th, 2004.
I guess i must be a “fucking moron” as Tetsujin said… because i do have a question after all that!
I have no problem accepting the idea that neo is partly machine! But this would imply that either he is a humand who has been modified by the machines, or else he is a machine who has been given human characteristics. In any case i think it’s safe to assume that he is, along with all the other humans unaware of the matrix, a power source. Now if this is the case, and the machines have the ability of altering human behavior/function in a way to give them a particular role, predetermined by the machines themselves… what is the whole point of the matrix? Why don’t they simply create “batteries” which would need no maintenance… human vegetables if you prefer!
Ok, ok.. so there is no choice involved… agreed… the solution would be to simply remove the notion of “choice” from human minds!
I mean just give a damn “altering” cookie to all the newborns, send them to sleep and plug’em in! Hell they wouldn’t even be aware of their own existence!
no?
Posted by Redwizz on April 23rd, 2004.
Tetsujin, I think the interpertation you pasted is a good one, but I think its possible to give a more philosophical interpertation. It takes a very literal SciFi view of The Matrix. I think we are supposed to ascribe some spiritual meaning to The One and what not. Granted, I haven’t watch the Matrix enough time to make a good summary of this interpertation.
Redwizz – an assumption the movie makes that you just have to believe for it to make sense is that humans beings, whose minds are jacked into a Matrix, are a good source of energy. They could just use whale or monkey brains or some such instead. Physics tell us that the Machines are spending more energy keeping the humans alive then the humans are producing electricity. But in the world of “The Matrix”, physics is a little different, you just have to buy into it.
Similarly, the Machines can’t just take away choice from human minds. Perhaps its Christian theology (not that the Machines are Christian, but just a literary thing). Perhaps its loyalty to their old masters or a recognition of their creators. Or its just part of the underlying assumption this movie makes.
I’m not so sure about the Neo being a machine thing. I thought Neo was just a manifestation of the doubt of reality that the Matrix gives everyone. He’s part of a grander scheme being devised by the architect and the Oracle, true. They created the conditions to bring about his creation. And he’s obviously able to hack into the Machine to a great deal then anyone else. But not sure about him being an actual program. I guess it goes back to how spiritual you want your interpretation of the Matrix to be.
Posted by Ian on April 23rd, 2004.
I think the reason the machines dont just turn the human into batteries is explained in the animatrix. when the machines take over and get the humans to sign there bodies over to the machines it had to be part of the agreement or the human would never have done it plus its an effort by the machines to be more “humane” for lack of a better word and show that coexisting (in a painless and almost peaceful way is possible rather then just annihilating your enemy.
Posted by Serovic on April 23rd, 2004.
I didn’t see Revolutions for one reason:
Reloaded sucked ass.
Suddenly Neo became a wuss and then Trinity became a wuss and then she “died”, but didn’t because Neo saved her…blah blah blah. Trinity forgot how to aim and Neo forgot that he was the one. ANYwho…stupid people killed an awesome movie just because they wanted more money…society sucks ass.
Posted by Rogue on April 23rd, 2004.
Maybe I’m wrong here. But, I feel as if the trilogy cannot really have one ‘explanaition’ or ‘meaning’. I think that different people are meant to draw different conclusions on what the movie is saying. After all, there was a strong theme of choice-making in the movies…
Posted by Dan on April 24th, 2004.
Maybe I’m wrong here. But, I feel as if the trilogy cannot really have one ‘explanaition’ or ‘meaning’. I think that different people are meant to draw different conclusions on what the movie is saying. After all, there was a strong theme of choice-making in the movies…
Posted by Dan on April 24th, 2004.
The is one overriding factor that damages the Matrix Trilogy for me…the fact that you have to play the video game to pick up the details (such as the little girl’s involvement) in the films is just plain sickening. It’s not as if it was accidental either. The plot went through the films, diverged into the game, then returned to the last film. Without playing the game you are left with a severe hole.
And that’s the problem. It screams “Buy our game! Give us your money!” How would you like it if, five minutes before the end of a film, a message came up and said “to watch the exciting climix of our film, go and pay your ticket fee.”
It’s just not on, and seems to be very much against the spirit of the first film.
I agree wholeheartedly with the person who said the trilogy started being about money-making. The first film was a peice of art…the second two, and all the other stuff released (fucking Matrix mobile phone adverts!), are a buisiness move.
It’s sad. The brothers could have left it after the first film and been remembered for creating art…but they didn’t, and now what they’ll be remembered for is producing a mediocre trilogy that was far outshone by LOTR…and probably even Star Wars ep 1-3. Time will tell.
Posted by Benja. on April 25th, 2004.
NERDS!!!!
Nerdy nerdy nerdy nerdy nerdy
nerd nerd
NERDS!!!!!
Posted by You're all nerds! on April 25th, 2004.
One comment, Dragon Ball Z staring Jesus.
That sums up the movie.
Posted by Durandal on April 26th, 2004.
Zandy1123’s comments seem most accurate. However, this also turns the whole Trilogy into a cliched “Love beats all” scenario for geeks. The last two parts sucked already, and having read that I think they suck even more. It’s a well-hidden cliche, if you know what I mean.
Posted by Ainu on April 26th, 2004.
Tetsujin
no.1 – The idea of the cookie being a program is a good one, however farfetched since there is no direct evidence to that.
no.2 – Explain me the scene when they are approaching the machine central city, and the defence system goes off and begins to shoot all those little bombs. Following the defence, come sentinels from behind the ship, and there is one sentinel that moves to the front, and then it shows Neo’s ‘orange view’ and shows the sentinel going THROUGH neo and neo feels pain… This does not seem to follow through with your idea of the ‘orange view’ . wtf? :X
no. 3 – You are saying that neo’s purpose is to return to the source and to disseminate to complete the matrix which leads to a reload… And then u go to say that Agent Smith’s purpose is to destroy Neo, which he does at the end of M3 hence accomplishing his task thus making him obselete….(briefly said). This theory is good BUT you fail to acknowledge the idea that the Oracle put forward about Agent Smith being the anti-version of neo, his negation. Hence, wouldn’t their purposes be opposites and not different from one another (one is to restart the matrix – return to the source, and the other is to destroy neo). These two purposes are not opposites and do not follow through with the ‘negation’ idea.
Anyway this stuff is off the top of my head. I will think more into and about the matrix and your opinions about it and probably post something later on.
Tetsujin – i hope to see a response from you shortly :)
Posted by saiaN on April 27th, 2004.
I found the Analysis by Tetsujin very interesting and it makes sense! But I thought it worthwhile to mention the use of Deus Ex Machina literally God from Machine…. Normally it’s used in theatre to note a miraculous save of the heores of the plotline (or the moral etc.) that would not have been possible without divine interference. Just my random thought for the day.
Posted by Katy on April 29th, 2004.
Only brothers can explain the real meaning of the movie.
Posted by Maximus on April 29th, 2004.
I liked all three parts a lot, have the really wise points that all of us should think about.
The main points are love and
AI(as the creation of human).
Posted by Maximus on April 29th, 2004.
To all the people who say that the movies are only bad if you don’t understand them:
I understand the movies. I understand all of the subtext and philisophical ideas in the trilogy. But honestly, since about 1/2 hour into the first one, it was “let’s make a SFX movie, but throw some plot in.”
Why do I think the second movie was crap? Well, if you actually listen, every time the characters speak (after each 20-25min fight sequence) they say exactly the same thing in progressively bigger words. There is no real story, just a way to progress the fighting.
The last movie had no real story. It was just a (bad) amalgamation of various cliches.
Posted by Ender on April 29th, 2004.
SUXK MUU DICK
Posted by dd on April 30th, 2004.
i mean what the hell is going on wiuth u guys?
huh??
what’s all this??
non of this phislosiphical shit is true! the only reason because of which agent smith died is because neo was plauged to the source so when the source made a lot of energy go through neo that destroyed him (in the matrix=smith) and since all the smiths are a hole then all the smith are dead simple huh???????????
ok ill tell u something…
WHAT THE FUCK IS SATI???
if u answer that ur a true matrix harccore motherfucking fannn!
Posted by Final fight scene NEO=Goku (FLYING FIGHT) BUHAHAHA on April 30th, 2004.
I LIKE PIE.
Posted by H on April 30th, 2004.
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HEHEHEH
OK BTW THE MATRIX SUCKED ASS OK???? GO WATCH SOME REAL MOVIES LIKE FIGHT CLUB!!!!!!!11
Posted by Marcos on May 1st, 2004.
Fight Club was a cool movie, but we talking here about MATRIX
Posted by Maximus on May 5th, 2004.
Cows I tell you… they’re all cows…
watch the movies, and envision the word “Moo” as a sub title whenever there’s a closeup of Neo… and suddenly it all makes sense…
cows produce more heat, and other things… than humans…
the first matrix was perfect.. a big grassy field…
but after that the cows went mad (as feeding cows, cow, tends to lead to mad cow disease…) they started thinking they were better than cows…
and thus evolved into the humanoid creature we see…
Neo is the super cow…
Moo…
see… the problems are…
1. How do humans survive without sunlight… no sunlight (skies blackened) = NUCLEA WINTER… all plantlife (and all things what live off plantlife) DIES. Frosty cold.
2. FIREWALLS! the matrix is a network… even the most basic sys admin knows how to protect their network with hardware…
as for the whole insult to humans…
let’s think about it… the computers are prolly smart enough to keep their hardware up to date… and thus their memory on fresh, easilly accessed devices…
thus prolly remember the beginning of the war alot better…
the end of the trillogy is a testament to the fact that nothing has changed… in the beginning humans lothed machines for being better… and now they’re not going to see them as allies…
Neo wasn’t unique.
this has happened, and will continue to happen…
the machines have accepted peace for as long as the humans are willing to keep it, but know they will attack again… at which point they’ll crush them and let more out of the matrix thinking this is the first time…
thus the whole orgy in zion bit… showing that humans are base, useless creatures…
as opposed to those within the matrix who serve a perpose and live clean lives… so to speak…
the machines provide order and purpose to the humans.
Posted by Sinestus on May 11th, 2004.
Look up “Matrix Revolutions Explanation” on the search engine Yahoo for websites and read several, then you’ll figure out the whole real intricate plot of the movie!
Posted by Jenni on May 15th, 2004.
The matrix is a great triligy if u understand it. The story was a master piece. How could someone think of all that with the machines and the whole the one thing etc. It would be really hard to make a storyline like that. Just ask square-enix or squaresoft. They make games with the most unbelievable storylines. The action was excellent as well, have u seen any kung fu movies like that so what if their was a lot of CGI it makes it better. The story well tetsunjin says it mostly he studied hard maybe too hard, i didn’t get the story at first until I rented it and watched A LOT! The movie is one of the hardest movies to produce and the brothers did an unbeleivable job, i would say it’s the movies great! All of them and reloaded didn’t suck it’s the most unique there was more fight scenes and more multi battle scenes and more weapon’s not just guns. Revolutions was great with the war and all I’ll admit it’s obvious that the last scene is still like dbz but probably better than it, was still a great ending and an awesome kung fu scene. And all of u that said it sucked tell me why?
Posted by bloodsmere on June 3rd, 2004.
Hey, wow, everyone has some great ideas! But can somone explain this to me : if they live underground and stuff, what do they all eat? Why are there there variations in race, like wouldnt everyone be the same color? and I dont see any trees around, what do they breath? Where do they get there wool from to make there cloathes? I dont see any sheep around.
So before you go saying how dumb people are for not understanding this film, take a look at how stupid you are for not taking these factors into account when you try and explain the plot of this movie. You see, theres a thing called money, and movie studios want to make it, and if they can release a bunch of movies that dont make sense, they can make more of it, because retards like most people on this site keep talking about it, and it is called self propetuating publicity. I bet u all own the dvd and other paraphenalia, u stupid fucks, how much money did u spend on merchandise? Fuck u all, if u think u understand the matrix, ur a fuck head, if u realize that it is designed to make money, then u understand it perfectly. Fuck u all and u leather coat wanna be mother fuckers, i bet u all wished u had uzis
Posted by Fuck the geeks on June 8th, 2004.
I agree with Fuck the geeks, hes the only person on this site who has his head based in reality
Posted by Simon on June 8th, 2004.
From the guy who was called fuck the geeks. YOU ARE A FUCKING DICK HEAD. You arnt Supposed to focus on the wrong part of the story you fuck head, plus anyway in M2 (reloaded) when the councillor took neo to the enginering leval he spoke about those machines filltering there water and makeing there air and they proboily have sheep and other animals in another part of zion that you just dont see DICK HEAD. If you are Supposed to belive all the othe stuff these people say whats so bad about thing the animals are somewhere else you SHIT FOR BRAINS. But any-hoo I think personaly when you understand the trillogy THEY ARE THE BEST MOVIES AROUND!!!!
Posted by MAGIC BURT (BIGGEST MATRIX FAN) on June 11th, 2004.
TO:FUCK THE GEEK
they eat a single celled amino, Dozer told u that in the first movie, moron.
Certainly alot of people in m2 seem to have “mixed” race. Remember its only a couple of
hundred years since turn of the century… only a few generations really. Not
enough for “everyone to be the same color”.
Air can be recycled in a chemical process without trees. How do u the space shuttle works.
It’s probable that the clothes people where are some sort of synthetic fibre.
MORON.
Posted by proud to be a geek on July 5th, 2004.
Magic BURT
got nothin to say cept … same here
I have a question for tetsunjin what about the sentinal it went through neo I was very confused but after reading your long storyline I got a few ideas but I’m not sure so can u help me out and reply… actually anyone reply thanks. And the movies great listen to bloodsmere and MAGIC BURT
Posted by matrix fan, sephiroth on July 14th, 2004.
MATRIX RELOADED KICKED!
Posted by No Name - Im noone from nowhere on July 14th, 2004.
FUCK ALL Y‘ALL COS MATRIX IS BULLSHIT (WELL IT IS THE WAY YOU FUCKING NERDS TALK ABOUT IT) WTF IS WITH THIS WEBSITE ANYWAY A WEBSITE TO talk ABOUT THE MATRIX YOU SHOULD BE GETTING PICTURES OF IT OR WATCHING THE MOVIES YOU FUCKING KNOB TWATS AND I DONT CARE WHAT YOU CALL ME IN RETURN COS IM NEVER GOIN ON THIS PEICE OF BULLSHIT THAT YOU CALL A SITE EVER AGAIN!
Posted by FUCK OFF! on August 12th, 2004.
I have to know why the sentinal passed through Neo whilst on his way (with Trinity) to 01. Does anyone think that there’s a possibility it could be Rama Kandra, in his machine state, helping Neo in some way?
And I’d like to mention that Tetsujin’s explanation is by far and away the best exposition of the main basics within in the movies I have read anywhere. Your grasp is superb. Now tell us your thoughts on the sentinel business.
Anyway one last thing, forget the cocksuckers that slag us off for our passion and need for understanding. They are the ones that truly suck and should find a past time for themselves rather than being jealous of other peoples. And they claim to understand it, that is truly laughable.
Posted by Adam on September 3rd, 2004.
somebody please tell me why the machines would HAVE to drill to zion? Since they already destroyed it 5 times they not only know WHERE it is, they have already have the holes from previous drilling. Also, would‘nt the new residents notice the destroyed city and human remains?
Posted by CHUCK on October 12th, 2004.
Good grief children, stop fighting. To put things simply, the Matrix trilogy (and its related spin-offs Enter The Matrix, the comics and the Animatrix)are an epic green-tinted roller coaster ride of techo-paranoia,ideas about reality nicked from Plato, Philip K. Dick and a thousand other sources and cool-looking people with stupid names kicking each other while attempting to justify their reasons for doing said kicking by spewing forth as much tedious/genius dialogue as possible. That about sums it up for me, and I find the best way to appreciate the films is by not trying so hard to understand the dense hidden meanings and various philosophical remifications all in one go. Jeezus, just try enjoying it, people! Try and let the density of the ideas wash over you and hopefully some of them will sink in later. I’m sure not everybody who’s seen the films and tried to piece together what they were about has an in-depth knowledge of computer programming terminology, Gnostic Christanity, Buddhism, Creationist myths and whatever other subtle and/or overt references the Wachowskis choose to throw at us – I certainly don’t, although it is important to understand that the Matrix trilogy as a whole does have a lot to say about a great many different things. Someone on one of the boxset commentaries says something about jazz philosophy – I think it was jazz philosophy, not likely to have been jazz higher mathematics – and it’s this principle of hurling a little bit of everything into the mix that seems to have the Brothers’ main success – and maybe their major failing was being completely unable to make the final film make any sense unless you really do want to go into it and analyse everything. To date I’ve only seen Revolutions once, and left just feeling very alienated and let-down. Although I suspect this might have been the point… Also, I think to say – as many people seem to have said thus far – that the first film was amazing and everything that followed utter crap is missing the point somewhat – I mean, come on, you can’t really say that Reloaded and Revolutions were a total disaster, surely? (Oh, you can – nevermind, I’m getting to a justification). My only real complaint about the end result of attempting to assimilate the ‘message’ of the three films as one coherent unit is that, in the end, it’s bloody impossible. I can’t help but thinking I’d have enjoyed Revolutions a lot more if I’d just come away at the end thinking ‘of course’ rather than But is Zion real? What is real?? Machines? Humans? Wuugh???‘as well as, why didn’t the Kid just die horribly half way through Reloaded?’
Posted by Borislav on January 17th, 2005.
this was the shittes film i have seen thanks wackhowski for spoiling an good trilogy
Posted by Trrotta on February 16th, 2005.
I have no clue on the sentinel passing through Neo i wish someone could explain that for me…I’m a huge matrix fan and because of this site i understand it better…
Posted by Inquiring Fan on February 21st, 2005.
All this about what will happen next is pretty easy to answer! Play the Matrix Online and you can continue the story and you will understand even more as the game is set after revolutions. Now it has developed quite a story so far which I won’t spoil for people who want to try it but suffice to say the human-machine truce is beginning to strain because of the actions of Morpheus.
Play the game and you will learn so much more about the trilogy!
Posted by ~DC:UK~ on June 5th, 2005.
I think matrix trilogy is the best movie trilogy is have ever seen till date. LOTR was also good but matrix has deeper meaning and its kinda hard to understand.
Posted by Kiran on June 22nd, 2005.
I did not understand one thing..why was neo blinded in the third part…does it have any hidden meaning?
Posted by Kiran on June 22nd, 2005.
The movie was very interesting and I tend to lean toward Tetsujin’s understanding of the plot line. Bloodsmere’s comment that ‘it is really hard to make a storyline’ like the one found in the Matrix is correct, which leads me to a conclusion that the movie was a parody on real-life. As the saying goes “truth is stranger than fiction.” Following off threads of the truth makes a story more interesting any day of the week. Take in point the struggle against good and evil in almost any epic story, themes taken from the Bible.
True it is late I am writing this as they came out now I think about 2 years ago now.
Humans live in an imaginary world, where ‘higher entities’ the robots rule. The humans are ignorant of what is really going on, and the act of the traitor in the first movie goes to show that most humans want it that way. They are happy to be ignorant of the true events transpiring in the world around them.
Neo is “the one,” the promised Messiah that would lead mankind to their salvation. This theme is straight from the Bible, and the promised Messiah that would lead mankind from his inevitable fate of death, because we have all inherited imperfection from the first man, Adam. Tetsujin states: “So by giving humans a choice, even at an unconscious level that only 0.1% are ever aware of, they accepted the Matrix.” The rest of human society, that are not part of that 0.1% are unaware of the truth.
So today the Bible states at Revelation 12:9 that when the last days began (according to Bible chronology in 1914) Satan was thrown down to earth (as that is the year Jesus established his Messianic kingdom rule and fought with Satan, as Satan lost the battle, he lost territory rights, his now being confined to the vicinities of the earth). That same scripture says that he “is misleading the entire inhabited earth.” Also in 2 Corinthians 4:4 we read that “the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers.” Thus it is very clear that from a Biblical standpoint, the “entire world” is being misled by Satan. They are unaware of the real events that are transpiring around them, and the universal issues that are now being fought, coming to their epic conclusion in the very near future. In fact the Bible states that at the “conclusion of the system of things” a harvest would take place, in which Jesus would draw out from among mankind all those “desirable” ones, “rightly disposed for everlasting life.” This ingathering work has taken place since 1919 and is in an accelerated pace right now. There being about 6 million witnesses around the earth whom have accepted the truth and are now declaring its message to the other inhabitants of the earth. 6 million of 6 billion is about 0.1% The exact number Tetsujin arrives at. Is this just coincidence? I highly doubt it. For further proof of the number of God’s people see the following website: jw-media.org. Note too that Jesus said that “wide and spacious is the road leading to destruction and many are the ones finding it, but narrow and cramped is the road leading to life and few are the ones that find it.” So we are told from the beginning that there would only be a “few” survivors of this world’s coming dramatic end (in a sense of an end to wicked mankind, not the literal earth – see Psalms 104:5 and Ecc 1:4).
The robots create a “false religion” to pacify the humans, and so too has Satan set in place false worship. This started in the garden of Eden when he persuaded our first human parents to serve him, rather than give their worship rightfully to Jehovah their God whom created them. But all false worshipers were done away with by Jehovah during the flood, and only Noah and his family, eight in all, survived. Thus the world was at that point peopled only with worshipers of the true God Jehovah. And God blessed Noah and his 3 sons and their wives and gave them the commsion to spread out among the entire earth as he had commiosned Adam earlier. “And God went on to bless Noah and his sons and to say to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth.” – Genesis 9:1.
Lamech Noah’s father must have understood the role of Noah was to play in Jehovah’s purpose for the earth because when he named his son Noah he said he did so because: “This one will bring us comfort from our work and from the pain of our hands resulting from the ground which Jehovah has cursed.” –Genesis 5:29. And so it was, that after the flood the “curse” Jehovah had put on the land was lifted. Thus paradise was again possible. The earth was to be inhabited by worshipers of Jehovah and they were to spread paradise among all the earth, as was the original commission given to Adam.
But Satan could not stand for that. Through Nimrod he unified the people in opposition to Jehovah again. Nimrod became a “mighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah.” (Genesis 10:8.9) Most likely he was the first to hunt not only animals but also humans. He founded his Empire in Babel, which later become known as Babylon. And there the people started to erect a “ziggurat” or a pyramid like structure. Jehovah saw that humankind was disobeying his commandment to spread about among the earth thus he flustered Nimrod’s plan when he confused the men’s languages. Thus they eventually split off and spread over the surface of the earth anyway.
But Nimrod in Babylon founded the source of all false religion in opposition to pure and true worship to Jehovah. The immortality of the soul, the trinity, hellfire, and many other false doctrines were founded their. And as all mankind spread out among the earth, they carried with them these basic threads of false religion. Thus although throughout the earth there are many different religions that have been changed by customs and traditions and cultures and climates, they all cling to these basic false teachings. It is no wonder then that pyramids are found throughout the entire world either, as the followers of Babylonish religion carried its customs with them to the far-flung corners of the earth.
Here too were founded the “ancient mysteries.” It is interesting why these sprung up. Nimrod, is said according to legend, to have died a violent death. Most likely the killer of that opposer of Jehovah was Shem, Noah’s son. He had Nimrod’s body dismembered and sent throughout the earth as a witness and example of those whom would follow his wicked course. So false religion for a time had to go underground. Nimrod’s wife, Semerminis, defied her dead husband and said he was reincarnated as a god. It was during the night that she planted an evergreen tree sapling over his grave saying this was the representation of his rebirth as a god. The threads of this event have resounded down throughout all false religion. In Egypt for example Isis and Osiris were worshiped as both mother and son, and husband and wife. Osiris was said to have died a violent death and his body dismembered. In Babylon the god Tamus was the man who died a violent death and reborn as a god. It is very important to note that Tamus was worshiped with the symbol of the cross, as was Osiris, and many other gods who were borrowed from this Babylonish false religion. Thus all cross worship, including that of Christendom is worship to that great opposer of the true God, and the perpetrator of the continuance of false religion, Nimrod.
But I sidetrack. There was a nation on earth who always had the truth. In pre-Christian times they were the Israelites. Jehovah gave his promise to Abraham that the promised “seed” or Messiah would come through his line, and he blessed the nation of Israel, named after Abraham’s grandson, with being witnesses of his name in all the earth.
Later Jesus, the promised seed did finally arrive, and he was rejected by God’s chosen people, he founding the Christian congregation. When he left to heaven, one of Jesus’ apostles, the apostle Paul foresaw Satan planting false seeds within the congregation. Well, in fact Jesus predicted that in one of his illustrations, saying that when he left to heaven, “an enemy would come in the night and plant weeds among the wheat.” And Satan as subtle as ever corrupted the Christian congregation, tainting it with the same false doctrines of the rest of Babylonish false religion, of the “trinity, hell-fire.” Worship of the cross, of idols, etc.
It wasn’t until the time of the end, that Jehovah again began to separate out from among mankind the true Christians. Thus Jehovah’s witnesses have come out from among Babylonish false religion, whether it be in bondage to Christendom or any other false religion, which Satan has set up to “blind” and deceive mankind.
The Bible further tells us that very soon there will be an all out attack upon what is called “Babylon the Great” as found in Revelation 17 and 18, by this world’s political governments. It appears that they will all give their “one mind” to the United Nations to turn on her and destroy her. Babylon the Great of course is false religion, all religions that carry the worship of Nimrod with them.
But the days of the Great Tribulation must be “cut short”, because if they weren’t even the “chosen ones” would be eliminated. Jehovah will use the political element of human society to get rid of religion in all her filth, but will protect his people.
These are the issues at hand and that we face today. And Jehovah’s Witnesses are proclaiming the message throughout the earth to every house and person. Yet the majority of mankind is still in the dark. They are connected to their “Matrix” thinking that their world is fine and it will not end. Others who stumble across the truth, would rather ignore it and continue on with their lives, which they are content with, unhappy to know that things are going to change.
There is much much else here that I see, but my time is short and I must go for now. Perhaps I will write more at a further time.
Posted by Q Dog on July 1st, 2005.
1.Yes, she knew that Neo would feed the virus to machines
2.he grew beyond their control
3.she was the last exile
4.Bane IS Smith
5. The machine City is the original design, an as for fire, it is smith in the real world so its wierd
6.Mobil=Limbo, not much involvement. Merv controls trainman
7.
Posted by George on December 1st, 2005.
LOL fuck the jehovas witness, why would you preach to people while we’re not even talking about you? go to someone who cares, you know what…even better? go kill yourself
Posted by lol on October 24th, 2006.
Many of the previous posts have really cleared up the main ideas of the trilogy and I would like to re-affirm what has been established. Neo’s purpose is to restart the Matrix, while Smith’s purpose is to keep the status quo. Neo is part of an elaborate design made by the machines in order to return to the Source (the Machine mainframe) in order to insert his experiences and his code into the mainframe, so that the machines can continue rebooting the Matrix system. His amazing abilities serve to rally the other humans behind him, sort of deceptively, because they believe that he can singlehandedly take on the machines. To the other humans, peace with the machine world is impossible and they don’t understand Neo’s true purpose. While Neo’s ultimate destiny is to complete this task, he does not understand that his “choice” is only an illusion until the very end. His misunderstanding of his purpose is reflected in the final battle with Smith when he says, “You were right, Smith” or something along those lines. The illusion of choice serves as a device for humans to catalyze the process of Neo returning to the Source, which the Oracle helps to achieve. The Oracle points all the people who seek her advice to Neo’s direction or to help Neo in some way or another. So from the very beginning, the Oracle has the Matrix designed so that ultimately Neo will be able to reach the Source and do his thing. It’s all another level of control. The first level of control is the Matrix itself, in which people are blind to what reality really is. The second level of control occurs as free people believe they are fighting a war with the machines, which is actually futile, but they place their trust in the One to bring peace, so they let Neo go to the Machine City. Little do they know that Neo’s purpose is not to destroy the machines, but to die and thus to eliminate the purpose of Agent Smith, which will cause the rebooting of the Matrix.
Smith is uncertain of his own purpose in the final battle in M3, but blinded by his greed for more power, he decides to merge with Neo. This ultimately “balances the equation”. With no more Neo, there is no more Smith, and the Matrix can reboot again. The anomaly that once was Neo is solved.
With the end of the trilogy, we find out that there will be yet another design for the Matrix in which humans can be freed and “the others” (who are the people in Zion who are aware of what the Matrix is) are allowed to remain free. While this may not be efficient for the machines, they have already made the promise with Neo that if he stops Agent Smith from his conquest of the Matrix and the machine world, the machines will not try and destroy all humans as they have before in the past 5 Matrixes. But because the Oracle says that the One will probably resurface in the future, I think another war will be neccessary, and the entire process of the Matrix continues with people being oblivious to the purpose of the One.
Posted by Esoterik on December 22nd, 2006.
good explanatoion but u should first explain all thje charcteres of each part and their purpose of being there and continuing in other parts which make us easy to understand
Posted by Anonymous on June 1st, 2007.
I agree, you are clearly too stupid to comprehend any of the really quite basic concepts you list in your original post.
Posted by D on October 22nd, 2007.
I think that all philosophical ideas, true or not, take form in any number and combination of “myths.” It’s possible to spell philosophy out, but myths are more interesting and engaging than “spelling it out” (I was a philosophy minor in college, and I know that for me, at least, straightforward philosophy texts are about as tedious as you can get; if you want proof, I can recommend you some excellently boring ass books).
Like more or less any form of literature or art (even the shittiest forms of art, consciously or not), The Matrix trilogy has borrowed heavily from various traditions and made an attempt to create its own mythology, its own world within a world.
The angle one approaches the trilogy with will color your interpretation. The Wachowski brothers very likely had their own, predefined angle of attack, but most who watch the film will likely either:
A) just be entertained. Nothing wrong with that.
B) see his or her own core myth system played out.
C) see his or her own core myth system challenged, in which case the film will become an enemy, the Other.
Some others, and I think it’s probably going to be a good deal fewer than the handful who will consider the point of the story arc or even read up and consider analyses before discarding the whole thing as crap, may in fact come up with a new tangental interpretation, or at least the initial arc away from the tried and familiar path.
I, personally, dig Tetsujin’s interpretation, which is kind of a cop out following all the crap I just said, but I guess my point is that, to deny someone’s point of view on a piece of art, of all things to be a dick about, is to discard the very point of art in the old world, which is the ability to make people consider different angles of philosophical questions.
Hey, if you don’t give a fuck about philosophy, just watch it and enjoy. If you do, then roll with it, give it your own spin for others to consider. If you think it sucks, as the initial reviewer did, fair enough. Say why, and the rest of us are pretty much going to see it or not regardless of what you say, so fuck it.
Posted by Nil on February 13th, 2008.